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Stupid Shizno · Jun 16, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22

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Originally Posted by Nanii

/unsigned, this is WHY we got the status changes you see when pressing N,stop being funny and come with these silly jokes..

So your saying the ideas on this board are silly jokes? and look at how many trheads created here were implimented in the game....and the friends comment only works if you add them as a friend genuis, do you plan on adding every pug'er in your group to your friends to see their status? i dont.

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Originally Posted by Nanii

If the player is away more than 20 min, set AUTOMATIC to away, do not disconnect the player. Reasons: Someone might write, and you got local and trade shut down to see that when getting back.

So you go idle for 20 mins at a time and want to read what your guild or team says? if your in my team, and your idle for 10 mins, your kicked. I dont have time to wait on you.

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Originally Posted by Nanii

And then, go ahead post a thread, but dont over do it...
If anet needs a change, if THEY think its needed. Let them post the threads and let us answer what we think about that. If i would to work at anet.. I would not patch a game becouse one player starts a thread and comes with for example a silly idea like "Please make it easier, or I wont play, dont you all agree" kind of thread..

The whole reason for this forums is so ANET can see what we want changed, come on dude open your eyes for once and read what you type. does bill gates go on microsoft.com/support and ask people what should be changed? no, theres a suggestion email for that. same with the bugs. ANET dosnt have the time to think of what we want to be changed, thus....fan sites

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Originally Posted by Nanii

I would like to add on behalf of LBS running academy and other services.
What if you are getting a Worldtour (takes about 4-7h according to sources)
And you want to go afk, which you can. And then you go..

If you looked at factions, ANET shut down running since its not suppose to be a service in the game for a reason. and i seriously doubt "LBS" is getting much service, last time i checked they charge 40k for a run from ascalon to deserts...no one pays that.

Now for my input, this is a great idea to err64 (my own number) for kicking idled players. To stop bots from idling missions, they should also impliment a /kick voting system, this will also help get rid of the annoying W/Mo or the 55 monk that you forgot to ask for a hp check. The downside to this is your party will be 1 man short. True, but think, how many times could you have done the mission 1 man short, without the hassle of the moron.

Kaguya · Jun 16, 2006, 10:39 AM // 10:39

No, baaaad suggestion, bad!

I often leave the game on background, in a way which I can read guild chat/alliance chat, and have another game or a movie running as well, if there's something interesting going on, I'll be able to see it, and quit the other game/movie and continue playing again.

Sure, punish those who are idling'n'leeching their way in missions and similar, but don't punish everyone. There's nothing wrong with in idling in your guild hall :P

NJudson · Jun 16, 2006, 10:45 AM // 10:45

Well, much like what was mentioned in post #7 I agree with. I am a person who will often go afk often because of those "little things in life" like eating answering the phone, taking a dump, ....etc. It is extremely rare that I go afk in missions/quests with a PUG because I hate when people go afk. However, I have no qualms about going afk when henching it. Just like the person said about SF. It is such a pain getting to that part of the game and if something comes up then why should I be penalized because I had to step away from the computer for a while?

Oh, wait I guess I know the answer. Before logging onto the game everyone should go through the following checklist to make sure they don't go afk while playing.

- Eat dinner/lunch/breakfast/snack
- Bring a snack
- Bring a drink
- Take a leak
- Take a dump
- Disconnect phone (assuming internet connection is seperate)
- Turn cell phone off
- Place sign on front door stating "Do Not Interrupt"
- Let dog out
- Etc, Etc, Etc

Slainster · Jun 16, 2006, 12:30 PM // 12:30

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Originally Posted by Nanii

/unsigned, this is WHY we got the status changes you see when pressing N,stop being funny and come with these silly jokes..

If anet ever sees this comment, well dont disconnect those who are AFK, becouse, thats why we got the status change. If people want to go afk, go afk, change status or dont change.

Up to the PEOPLE.

¤#¤%(#("

If the player is away more than 20 min, set AUTOMATIC to away, do not disconnect the player. Reasons: Someone might write, and you got local and trade shut down to see that when getting back.

Think about it guys.. anet has changed alot for us, and still these silly "change this change that" threads show up.. I have made ONE thread about an auction house.. and thats all.
This is still guild wars, not some random internet rpg where the server needs to disconnect you for being afk. I bet 1 million the gw servers can handle that, or else, how can they handle the 1 million (and over) bots that are running around?... I would suggest better connection for those who think its the players afk'ness that makes it lag.. I never experience ANY lag becouse of that reason...

Im still trying to get to the point where those who makes these threads need to think about what Anet has done so far, why, and what would happen if it changed. And also think about why you bought the game, was it to play it, or to play it so that one can find out what needs to be changed for your satisfaction..

And then, go ahead post a thread, but dont over do it...
If anet needs a change, if THEY think its needed. Let them post the threads and let us answer what we think about that. If i would to work at anet.. I would not patch a game becouse one player starts a thread and comes with for example a silly idea like "Please make it easier, or I wont play, dont you all agree" kind of thread..

That.. would be all... ALMOST

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I would like to add on behalf of LBS running academy and other services.
What if you are getting a Worldtour (takes about 4-7h according to sources)
And you want to go afk, which you can. And then you go..

Im not going to say more there, I think most people can figure out where Im trying to get.
Not everyone has a cat at home, or someone else that has the urge to move the mouse around just so that a game, in which you are set to AWAY on has to disconnect you if you are afk 20 min... come on. Guild wars. Not a random game.

Why then have "Do Not Disturb, Offline, away" status?..

That.. would be it.

I agree.. /not signed if i play with henchies to get some quests done, and am in the middle of a map, im not going to sign out so i can stop for 30 minutes to have some lunch, and then come back and redo all the killing again?? I dont agree with the afk's in missions, but thats just tough, its life

Bus · Jun 16, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05

OK maybe it should not disconnect you if you're in an explorable area and you're only with henchies and similar situations.

As for the people who had the argument "I want to go afk then read the guild chat when I come back". What the hell is going to be so important and so interesting that you're gonna miss? OMG your gonna miss your guildies conversation about a movie they saw! ON NO! If your guildies are looking for help on a mission or some1 for a group, you obviously cant respond or go to them when you're afk can you? When you come back, if you got disconnected
log on again, ask your guildies if anyone needs help on anything and that would be the same as being online + afk the whole time. If you really must know then ask "Hey what did you guys talk about when I was offline?"

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Originally Posted by Nanii

I would like to add on behalf of LBS running academy and other services. What if you are getting a Worldtour (takes about 4-7h according to sources) And you want to go afk, which you can. And then you go..

I myself dont do much PVE anymore but I hear so many PVE'ers saying how runners are ruining the game...

Stupid Shizno · Jun 16, 2006, 01:16 PM // 13:16

^^ You cant make exceptions, either it cuts you for idling for 20 mins or it wont, "but im only exploring" your still on the server causing packet transfer thus your making problem for others during lag.

Either add it or dont, but dont make it circumstancle

BowLad21 · Jun 16, 2006, 02:30 PM // 14:30

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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza

I fail to see how this could hurt the players. And it is an added layer of security.

/signed

AFK for 20 minutes without even using chat?
Yes, unexpected things do happen, but I always thought it was good manners to log off the game if you think you are going to be gone any longer than 20 mins.

12 mins, need to go to bathroom - BRB folks or /afk or /dance or /attention, something to let the server know you are still around and presto you have another 20 mins.

Oh, I'm sure you've had diahrrea and had time to type or press a computer button. But what if it doesn't register?

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Personally I'm more in favour of stretching it out to half an hour, but that won't catch anyone napping in missions nor even add a little pressure to them. Having said that of course I think perhaps another approach is needed to afk-mission-m****s.

EDIT: And a nice bright warning if you trigger this function.
"You have been AFK for xx minutes, you will be disconnected in x minutes if the server detects no activity."

That message was probably almost an exact duplicate of what an A-net employee thought before he made the "You have been playing x hours. Please Take a break." Neither message is a good idea.

BowLad21 · Jun 16, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by Death3D

^^ You cant make exceptions, either it cuts you for idling for 20 mins or it wont, "but im only exploring" your still on the server causing packet transfer thus your making problem for others during lag.

Either add it or dont, but dont make it circumstancle

Stupid idea.
1.Unexpected things happen. Why should we WANT a booting system at all?
2.Why do you care about giving the servers lag? Enough people connect and disconnect, causing more lag than one or two people unlucky enough to look away from their computers.
3.You paid 50$, maybe even another 50$ if you bought factions. So chill on the server lag, you paid for this game, either stop using dial-up or get over it.

I have played almost every day this month, due to it being summer vacation. I have experienced almost no lag in towns (which I could fix if I didn't stay in district 1), and no lag at all, ever, outside of outposts and towns.

Bus · Jun 16, 2006, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by BowLad21

I have played almost every day this month, due to it being summer vacation. I have experienced almost no lag in towns (which I could fix if I didn't stay in district 1), and no lag at all, ever, outside of outposts and towns.

Not all people as fortunate as you.

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Originally Posted by BowLad21

3.You paid 50$, maybe even another 50$ if you bought factions. So chill on the server lag, you paid for this game, either stop using dial-up or get over it.

Yeah, good point you paid 50$ so you can waste your time with selfish morons who AFK through missions and get frustrated with lag which can be reduced if only random people with ADHD logged out. I'm not using dial-up but for some people that do, its not an option.

BowLad21 · Jun 16, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00

If there ever was an AFK boot one or two of two things would happen.
First, a random input macro would be invented so that you could go AFK without worrying.
And/Or
Second, people would complain everywhere that a glitch happened. The server missed input for 20 minutes, or miscounted, and they got booted.

Nanii · Jun 16, 2006, 03:24 PM // 15:24

QUOTE:If you looked at factions, ANET shut down running since its not suppose to be a service in the game for a reason. and i seriously doubt "LBS" is getting much service, last time i checked they charge 40k for a run from ascalon to deserts...no one pays that.

Answer to that
I have payed, I did pay 75k for a mission, additional 25k for a package..
And this is a silly idea. Idling in your GH is what you can do if you want.
And btw. My partner does not have ANY lag while in towns.. I guess he i using a better system than SOME.

And if a player goes afk during a mission, there should be a kick button for the leader. And if you are doing it with henchmen, it should stay like it is.

The whole idea ruins the idea of ANET implementing status changes in friendslist. It should say like the title bar,(A) (DND)
If a player is afk. This game was made for people to play. Booting a player of the game would cause alotof trouble.
And some of you people arent thinking..
Some like to be afk, sit and look at trades if they are eating, talk to guildies while eating, maybe even sit in gh while eating....

I should stop looking at this forum.. things just make me mad, things like this ideas. I do better off writing a nice letter to Gaile and see what she would think of these ideas and see what solution there is for unhappy players who cant buy a new computer in order to have no lag..
Still, not signed!

Bus · Jun 16, 2006, 03:58 PM // 15:58

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Originally Posted by Nanii

I have payed, I did pay 75k for a mission, additional 25k for a package..
And this is a silly idea. Idling in your GH is what you can do if you want.
And btw. My partner does not have ANY lag while in towns.. I guess he i using a better system than SOME.

Again the "If its not a problem for me then doesnt matter if it is for other people" mentality

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Originally Posted by Nanii

And if a player goes afk during a mission, there should be a kick button for the leader. And if you are doing it with henchmen, it should stay like it is.

Why dont I be the leader of a group so I can kick everyone right before we beat the mission just to be an asshole?

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Originally Posted by Nanii

The whole idea ruins the idea of ANET implementing status changes in friendslist. It should say like the title bar,(A) (DND)
If a player is afk. This game was made for people to play. Booting a player of the game would cause alotof trouble.
And some of you people arent thinking..
Some like to be afk, sit and look at trades if they are eating, talk to guildies while eating, maybe even sit in gh while eating....

"This game was made for people to play"? And going afk counts as playing?

"sit and look at trades if they are eating" Yeah, Im sure a lot of people are so into GW that they eat in front of the computer. Watch trades.... OH NO someone might be selling a whatever for 50k instead of the usual 51k! I might miss it! And why would this be a problem for you anyway. You can just move the mouse or press a key and the 20 minutes would restart.

BowLad21 · Jun 16, 2006, 04:05 PM // 16:05

-I have eaten before the computer in the past. Life happens, the unexpected happens.
-The idea of sitting there and watching trades is a good one. I don't want to be pressing a button every so often. I had to sit in droks for 30+ minutes before I found a seller of a chaos axe that I liked. I sat for 30+ minutes, having nothing to do in towns. I was done salvaging, I was done selling, I didn't want to visit storage.

This idea, of booting AFKs, is one made of pure greed. You aren't using what you bought, I want it, GIMME. End of discussion. There is no viable reason for a boot. A few players selfishly reason that you're making me lag.

Mavrik · Jun 16, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36

/signed a thousand times

There needs to be a vote to kick system implimented with majority vote winning.

I've had people go AKF in the final prophecies mission and remained so the whole time, basicly getting a free finish of the game and share of the gold. I've also had people go AKF when doing missions for the bonus so they get the bonus when their still sitting at the beginning. Something needs to be done and I'm tired of them leeching off everyone else's hard work.

Josh · Jun 16, 2006, 04:43 PM // 16:43

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Originally Posted by anonymous

i hate to admit that i even played the game but in the 1 and a half months i played runescape *shudder* i hated that if i left my computer i would get disconnected. also i like to leave the game running when im gone for a little so i can see whats happening in guild chat.

/unsigned

I have to agree with the above, including the RuneScape thing, I had the same feeling when I, too *shudder*, played that game! Was so annoying it kept auto-logging me out within say 2 minutes I think it was, couldn't even go downstairs quick and grab a drink or some food, or even go to the toilet without being logged out.

Plus, a lot of people, I formerly used to; like to leave there Game on for the day and come back and see what's been going on in Guild Chat and such.

BowLad21 · Jun 16, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46

I know I said discussion was over, but your post was so obviously incorrect, I can't help the control monster.
-AKF? two typos or you don't know the meaning
-A majority kick vote is so easily abusible that it's not even funny. Next thing you'll want is a Cookies For Scammers Day.
-If you could get a majority kick vote in the first place, then why not have a different solution. Lure the monsters to said "AKF" person, so they die, then they will not recieve drops.

Lady Lozza · Jun 16, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

So instead of letting the server kick afk players - who don't really need to be connected to the server in the first place, players who are actually playing get kick instead? I can see how this makes a whole LOT of sense.
Are we selfish for not wanted to be kicked because the server is busy? Yes, we are as selfish as all those who feel it necessary to remain logged on in town when they know they are going to be afk for long periods of time.

Yes, the unexpected DOES happen, but I for one would love to know that if I go afk and suffer a misfortune, my account is logged off before it falls into the wrong hands. Likelihood of this happening, small, nonetheless I'm paranoid about computer (and game) security.

And believe it or not, I have had diahrrea, a keystoke isn't all that difficult on the race to the bathroom. My real question though would have to be why on earth someone would want to play in such a condition. Diahrrea, by definition, is NOT a once off.

Once again I say the original proposal needs a LOT of work, and the specifics need to be hammered out. This could not be used to deal with freeloaders, most unfortunately, for the reason that sometimes in missions/battles some people do need to go unexpectantly afk. I do don't believe these people should be punished. Nonetheless, for the sake of cleaning up towns an outposts I believe this to be a reasonable idea and worth investigation.

NOTE: Investigation does not mean that it should be put ingame rfn, only that it is worth a look and a thought.

Arkantos · Jun 16, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47

For the people who want to see what their guild is talking about afk, there is an easy solution. They should make it so you can go AFK in your Guild Hall, so theres no harm you can do.

Niet Nart · Jun 16, 2006, 07:00 PM // 19:00

/signed. If it means it will reduce lag im in.

Symeon · Jun 16, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50

For simple automatic disconnecting after a certain amount of time AFK/idle:

/not signed.

Because, if I'm in the middle of a big quest or a Tyrian mission which I'm doing with henchies, and then it's supper time or I'm going out somewhere briefly and I have to break off, I want to be able to continue it later.

As many others have said, a /votekick system would be the best idea to combat the idle faction farmers that are causing suggestions like this to be made.